מפת הסוגיא — חולין נ״בSugya map — Chullin 52

המשנה: נשתברו רוב צלעותיה — טריפה. ברייתא: לבהמה כ״ב צלעות, י״א בכל צד; ״רוב״ הוא שתים־עשרה — שש מכאן ושש מכאן, או אחת־עשרה מצד אחד ואחת מן הצד השני.

§ The mishna states that if most of an animal’s ribs were fractured, it is a tereifa. The Sages taught: These are most of the ribs: Six from here and six from there, i.e., six on each side, or eleven from here and one from there. Twenty-two ribs are significant for matters of tereifot, eleven on each side. Twelve fractured ribs constitutes a majority.

זעירי מצמצם: רק כשנשברו בחצי הצלע הקרוב לשדרה, ולא בחצי החיצון. רבה בר בר חנה בשם ר׳ יוחנן מוסיף: רק בצלעות הגדולות שיש בהן מוח — אבל שבירת הצלעות הקטנות אינה מטריפה.

Ze’eiri says: And this applies only when the ribs were fractured from the half of the rib toward the spine, but not if they were fractured on the other half. Rabba bar bar Ḥana says that Rabbi Yoḥanan says: And this applies only to fractures occurring in large ribs that contain marrow; fractures in small ribs do not render the animal a tereifa.

עולא בשם בן זכאי: אם נעקרו הצלעות מן השדרה, די ברוב צד אחד (שש) להטריף; ובשבירה צריך רוב שני הצדדים. ר׳ יוחנן: בין נעקרו בין נשתברו — רק ברוב שני הצדדים.

§ Ulla said that ben Zakkai says: If the ribs were dislocated from the spine, even a majority of one side, i.e., six dislocated ribs, is enough to render the animal a tereifa. Only if the ribs were broken is a majority of both sides necessary. Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Whether they were dislocated or broken, the animal is a tereifa only with a majority of both sides.

רב: נעקרה צלע וחוליה עמה — טריפה, אף שחוט השדרה שלם. רב כהנא ורב אסי שאלו: נעקרה צלע מכאן וצלע מכאן (שתי הצלעות של חוליה אחת), והחוליה עצמה קיימת — מהו? השיב רב: גיסטרא אתם אומרים?! — בהמה כזו כבר נחתכה ודינה כנבילה.

Rav says: If a rib was dislocated and the attached vertebra was torn out with it, the animal is a tereifa, even if the spinal cord remains intact. Rav Kahana and Rav Asi said to Rav: If a rib was dislocated from here and another rib from there, i.e., both ribs connected to a single vertebra were dislocated, but the vertebra itself remains intact, what is the halakha? Rav said to them: Are you saying that an animal that was sliced in half is a tereifa? This animal is considered to have been sliced and already has the status of a carcass, as it is already considered dead (see 21a).

קושיא: והרי גם דברי רב עצמו (צלע וחוליה) הם גיסטרא, שהרי הצלע שכנגד נשמטת ממילא! תירוץ: כשאמר רב ״צלע וחוליה״, כוונתו לצלע שנעקרה בלא החוליה.

The Gemara asks: But didn’t Rav also say that a sliced animal is a tereifa, since he said that if a rib was dislocated along with the attached vertebra, the animal is a tereifa? In such a case, the opposite rib is inevitably detached. If so, the animal should be considered a carcass. The Gemara responds: When Rav said that such an animal is a tereifa, he was referring to a case where the rib was dislocated without the vertebra.

קושיא: והרי רב אמר במפורש ״צלע וחוליה״! תירוץ: כוונתו לצלע ולחצי חולייתה; הצלע שכנגד נשארת מחוברת לחצי החוליה השני, ולכן זו טריפה ולא גיסטרא.

The Gemara asks: But didn’t Rav explicitly say his statement with regard to a rib and vertebra that were dislocated? The Gemara responds: Rav meant that if a rib and half its attached vertebra were dislocated, the animal is a tereifa. The opposite rib, however, is intact and connected to the remainder of the vertebra.

מכאן שרב כהנא ורב אסי שאלו על צלע בלא חוליה — ועל כך אמר רב ״גיסטרא קאמריתו״, היינו נבילה. וקשה: והרי בן זכאי אומר שנעקרו אינו טריפה אלא ברוב צד אחד, ומשמע שפחות מכך כשר כל עוד השדרה שלמה!

The Gemara challenges: By inference, one may conclude that Rav Kahana and Rav Asi stated their question with regard to a less serious case, i.e., where a rib from each side was torn out without the vertebra being damaged at all. And yet, Rav said to them: Are you saying that an animal that was sliced in half is a tereifa? Rather, this animal is a carcass and is certainly prohibited. And how could Rav say this? But didn’t Ulla say that ben Zakkai says: If the ribs were dislocated, even a majority of one side is enough to render the animal a tereifa, while if the ribs were broken, a majority of both sides is necessary? If so, any animal with fewer than six dislocated ribs should be kosher, as long as the spine is undamaged.

תירוץ: רב יחלק — דברי בן זכאי (שש בצד אחד כשרות) אמורים בצלעות שאינן זו כנגד זו; אבל כאן, בשתי צלעות של חוליה אחת, הן זו כנגד זו ממש, וזו גיסטרא.

The Gemara responds: Rav could have said to you: There, where ben Zakkai says that six dislocated ribs on one side render the animal a tereifa, this is referring only to ribs not dislocated one opposite the other. Here, where Rav says that two dislocated ribs render the animal a carcass, this is referring to ribs dislocated one opposite the other.

קושיא: והרי ר׳ יוחנן מטריף רק ברוב שני הצדדים, ובהכרח יש שם לפחות זוג צלעות זו כנגד זו — ואף על פי כן הוא קורא לזה טריפה ולא נבילה!

The Gemara asks: But doesn’t Rabbi Yoḥanan say that the animal is a tereifa only if a majority of both sides was dislocated, and in a majority of both sides, it is impossible that one of them is not situated opposite another? Still, Rabbi Yoḥanan says that the animal is a tereifa and not a carcass.

תירוץ: אצל ר׳ יוחנן ראש הצלע (״בוכנא״, עלי) נעקר בלא בית־מושבו שבחוליה (״אסיתא״, מכתש), והשדרה שלמה — טריפה. אבל אצל רב, נעקרו גם הראש וגם בית־מושבו, ונפגעה השדרה — נבילה.

The Gemara responds: There, Rabbi Yoḥanan is referring to a case where the pestle, i.e., the end of the rib, was torn out without the mortar, the socket of the vertebra in which it sits, leaving the spine completely intact. In such a case, the animal is a tereifa only if twelve ribs were dislocated, even though this necessarily includes one rib opposite another. Here, where Rav says that two dislocated ribs opposite one another render the animal a carcass, that is referring to a case where the pestle and mortar were torn out together, damaging the spine.

מסקנת הבירור: רב כהנא ורב אסי לא שמעו את דברי רב, ולכן שאלו. ומדוע שאלו דווקא על שתי צלעות ולא על אחת? כדי שתשובה אחת תברר להם שני דינים. ובחרו דווקא בשתיים, שאם רב מטריף אף באחת — ירתח ויאמר ״אחת טריפה, שתיים צריך לשאול?״ ובאמת מתשובת ״גיסטרא קאמריתו״ — היא־היא ריתחתו — הבינו ששתים זו כנגד זו נבילה, ואחת טריפה.

The Gemara asks: If so, why did Rav Kahana and Rav Asi ask anything of Rav? Their case in question is identical to the statement of Rav. If Rav says that the animal is a tereifa if a rib and part of its vertebra were dislocated, that should be the halakha all the more so if ribs opposite one another were dislocated in addition to part of the attached vertebra. The Gemara responds: Rav Kahana and Rav Asi did not hear that statement of Rav. The Gemara persists: But if so, let them ask about the simpler case of one dislocated rib, like that which Rav himself discussed. Why ask specifically about two ribs opposite one another? The Gemara responds: They reasoned: Let us ask him one question through which he will explain to us two different cases. As, if we ask him about only one dislocated rib, this works out well if he says to us that the animal is a tereifa, because we can infer that all the more so if two ribs opposite one another are dislocated, the animal is a tereifa. But if he says to us that it is kosher, we must still ask with regard to a case of two dislocated ribs. The Gemara objects: If that is so, then now, too, when they ask him about two ribs, they may not receive an answer with regard to both cases. Granted, this works out well if he says to them that an animal with two dislocated ribs opposite one another is kosher, since they can infer that all the more so it is kosher if only one rib is dislocated. But if he says to them that it is a tereifa, they must still ask with regard to a case of only one dislocated rib. The Gemara responds: They reasoned that it is better to ask about a case where two ribs opposite one another were dislocated, because if it is so that Rav holds that the animal is a tereifa if even one rib is dislocated, then he would become angry and respond: If an animal with even one dislocated rib is a tereifa, is it necessary to ask about an animal with two dislocated ribs? The Gemara objects: But they did say this question to him and he did not become angry, despite the fact that he holds that even one dislocated rib renders the animal a tereifa. The Gemara responds: When he said to them: Are you saying that an animal that was sliced in half is a tereifa, this is his anger. Rav Kahana and Rav Asi understood from this response that an animal with two dislocated ribs opposite one another is a carcass, but an animal with one dislocated rib is a tereifa.

שמואל (בשרשרת מסירה) מונה שלושה דברים המטריפים: צלע שנעקרה משורשהּ, גולגולת שנמעכה ברובה, ובשר המכסה את רוב הכרס שניזוק ברובו.

§ Rabba bar Rav Sheila says that Rav Mattana says that Shmuel says: If a rib was ripped from its root, or if the skull was crushed in its majority, or if the flesh that envelops the majority of the rumen was damaged in its majority, the animal is a tereifa.

הגמרא תמהה על הדין הראשון: וכי צלע שנעקרה משורשהּ מטריפה? והרי יש לכך סתירה ממשנה במסכת אהלות —

The Gemara asks: Did Shmuel really say that if a rib was ripped from its root, the animal is a tereifa? But raise a contradiction from a mishna (Oholot 2:3):

המשנה: כמה חיסרון בשדרה מבטל שם ״גוף שלם״ לעניין טומאת אוהל? ב״ש: שתי חוליות, ב״ה: חוליה אחת. ושמואל אמר: וכן לעניין טריפה — לב״ה חיסרון חוליה אחת מטריף. משמע שחיסרון חוליה מטריף, אך עקירת צלע לבדה לא.

How much is considered a deficiency in the spine of a corpse so that it will not be considered a full corpse that would render one impure in a tent? Beit Shammai say: Two missing vertebrae, and Beit Hillel say: One vertebra. And Rav Yehuda says that Shmuel says: And just as Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel disagree with regard to ritual impurity, so too they disagree with regard to a tereifa, i.e., according to Beit Hillel an animal missing only one vertebra is a tereifa. Evidently, Shmuel holds that a missing vertebra renders the animal a tereifa, but a dislocated rib does not.

תירוץ: אין סתירה — כאן (טריפה בעקירת צלע) מדובר בצלע שנעקרה בלא החוליה; שם (חיסרון חוליה) בחוליה שחסרה בלא עקירת הצלע. שני דינים נפרדים, ושניהם מטריפים.

The Gemara responds: This is not difficult. Here, where Shmuel says that a rib ripped from its root renders the animal a tereifa, he is referring to a case where the rib was torn out without the vertebra. There, where he says that a missing vertebra renders the animal a tereifa according to Beit Hillel, he is referring to a case where the vertebra was missing without the rib being dislocated. But if the rib itself was ripped from its root, the animal is a tereifa.

בירור: צלע בלא חוליה מצוי, אך חוליה בלא צלע — היכן מצוי? בסוף אזור הכסלים (השפלים), שם יש חוליות שאין צלעות מחוברות אליהן.

The Gemara asks: Granted, with regard to a case where a rib was dislocated without the vertebra, you find this commonly. But how can you find a case of a missing vertebra without a dislocated rib? The Gemara responds: This can occur at the ends of the flanks, where there are vertebrae with no ribs attached to them.

רב אושעיא מקשה: אם לב״ה חיסרון חוליה מטריף, הרי הם המחמירים — ומדוע לא נשנתה מחלוקת זו ברשימת ״קולי ב״ש וחומרי ב״ה״ שבעדויות? רב: השאלה המקורית נשאלה לעניין טומאה, ושם ב״ש הם המחמירים; דין הטריפה לא נזכר במפורש, ולכן לא נכלל ברשימה.

Shmuel said that just as Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel disagree with regard to ritual impurity, so too they disagree with regard to a tereifa. Rav Oshaya objects to this statement: But if that is so, then the opinion of Beit Hillel is the more stringent one, as they hold that even one missing vertebra renders the animal a tereifa. Accordingly, let the tanna teach this dispute along with the list of leniencies of Beit Shammai and stringencies of Beit Hillel in tractate Eduyyot. Rav said to him: When the question was asked, it was asked with regard to the ritual impurity of a corpse. That is the source of the dispute between Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai, and on that matter, Beit Shammai constitute the stringent opinion. The parallel disagreement with regard to tereifot is not mentioned explicitly in any mishna or baraita, and it was therefore omitted from the list in tractate Eduyyot.

לדין השני (גולגולת שנמעכה ברובה): שאל ר׳ ירמיה — ״רובה״ הוא רוב גובה הגולגולת, או רוב היקפה? הספק לא הוכרע — תיקו.

The Gemara returns to Shmuel’s statement: Or if the skull was crushed in its majority, the animal is a tereifa. Rabbi Yirmeya raises a dilemma: Is this referring to the majority of its height or the majority of its circumference? The Gemara responds: The dilemma shall stand unresolved.

לדין השלישי (בשר החופה את רוב הכרס): שאל רב אשי — האם מטריף אף ברוב קרוע (אורך הבשר נקרע), או רק ברוב נטול (הבשר ניטל), אך אם רק נקרע — כשרה?

Shmuel also said: Or if the flesh that envelops the majority of the rumen was damaged in its majority, the animal is a tereifa. Rav Ashi raises a dilemma: Is this referring even to a case where the majority of the length of the flesh was torn? Or is it referring only to a case where the majority of the flesh was removed, but if it was torn along the majority of its length the animal remains kosher?

ניסיון לפשוט מן המשנה: ״כרס הפנימית שניקבה, או שנקרע רוב החיצונה — טריפה״. ובמערבא בשם ר׳ יוסי בר׳ חנינא: כל הכרס הוא ה״פנימית״, וה״חיצונה״ היא הבשר החופה את רוב הכרס. משמע שטריפה אף בקריעת רובו.

The Gemara responds: Resolve the dilemma from that which we learned in the mishna: If the internal rumen was perforated or most of the external rumen was torn, the animal is a tereifa. And in the West, Eretz Yisrael, they said in the name of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Ḥanina: The entire rumen is the internal rumen. And if so, which is the external rumen? It is the flesh that envelops the majority of the rumen. Apparently, the animal is a tereifa even if the flesh is torn in its majority.

דחיית הראיה: כל הפשיטות נועדה לבאר את שמואל, אך שמואל עצמו אינו סובר כר׳ יוסי בר׳ חנינא; שכן אמר ר׳ יעקב בר נחמני בשם שמואל ש״כרס החיצונה״ היא המקום שאין בו ״מילת״ (פלומה פנימית), היינו רוב הכרס עצמו — ואין מכאן ראיה לספקו של רב אשי.

The Gemara rejects the proof: This explanation is meant only to clarify the statement of Shmuel, and Shmuel does not agree with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Ḥanina, as this is what Rabbi Ya’akov bar Naḥmani said that Shmuel said: The case of: Most of the external rumen was torn, mentioned in the mishna, where the animal is a tereifa, is not referring to where the flesh enveloping the majority of the rumen was torn, but rather where the majority of the rumen itself was torn. The internal rumen is the place in the rumen that has no wool, i.e., downy projections on the inside of the rumen. Accordingly, one cannot prove anything about the statement of Shmuel based on an explanation of the mishna offered by Rabbi Yosei, son of Rabbi Ḥanina.

המשנה: ״ודרוסת הזאב״ — טריפה. רב יהודה בשם רב: בבהמה מטריפה דריסת כל טורף בגודל זאב ומעלה, ובעופות בגודל נץ ומעלה — ולא טורף קטן מהם.

§ The mishna states: And an animal that was clawed by a wolf is a tereifa. Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: In the case of an animal, it is a tereifa if it was clawed by any predator from the size of a wolf and upward. And with regard to birds, they are tereifot if they were clawed by any predator from the size of a hawk and upward.

למעט את מי בא רב? אם למעט חתול — כבר שנינו ״דרוסת הזאב״, ומשמע שחתול אינו מטריף. ואם לחדש שזאב דורס אף בהמה גסה — הרי שנינו: ר׳ יהודה אומר, דרוסת הזאב בבהמה דקה, ודרוסת ארי בבהמה גסה.

The Gemara asks: What does this statement of Rav, that an animal is a tereifa if it was clawed by a predator at least as large as a wolf, serve to exclude? If we say it serves to exclude a cat that clawed an animal, since it is smaller than a wolf, we already learned in the mishna: And an animal clawed by a wolf is a tereifa. One can infer from this that cats do not render an animal a tereifa. And if you would say: This mishna teaches us that a wolf can also effectively claw a large animal, e.g., cattle, but it may still be that a cat can render a small animal a tereifa, this cannot be; didn’t we learn in the mishna that Rabbi Yehuda says: If it was clawed by a wolf in the case of a small animal, or clawed by a lion in the case of a large animal, the animal is a tereifa?

ואם תאמר שר׳ יהודה חולק על חכמים, ולדעתם זאב דורס אף גסה — אי אפשר, שהרי אמר ר׳ בנימין בר יפת בשם ר׳ אלעא: לא בא ר׳ יהודה אלא לפרש את דברי חכמים, ולא לחלוק.

And if you would say that Rabbi Yehuda disagrees with the Rabbis, and they hold that a wolf can also render large livestock tereifa by clawing, this too is impossible, as doesn’t Rabbi Binyamin bar Yefet say that Rabbi Ela says: The statement of Rabbi Yehuda in the mishna comes only to explain the statement of the Rabbis?

תירוץ: וכי אתה משליך דברי חכם אחד כנגד חכם אחר? אפשר שר׳ אלעא סובר שר׳ יהודה מפרש, ורב סובר שהוא חולק. ואם תרצה: לעולם רב בא למעט חתול — שלא תאמר שהמשנה נקטה ״זאב״ רק כדרך העולם אך חתול דורס אף בדקה; קא משמע לן שדווקא זאב.

The Gemara responds: Are you setting the statement of one man against the statement of another man? Even if Rabbi Ela holds that Rabbi Yehuda comes only to explain the statement of the Rabbis, Rav may still hold that Rabbi Yehuda disagrees with the Rabbis. Or, if you wish, say instead: Actually, everyone agrees that a wolf can render only a small animal a tereifa through clawing. Nevertheless, the statement of Rav serves to exclude a cat from the ability to render even a small animal a tereifa. Lest you say that the mishna taught about a wolf only because this is the manner in which the matter typically occurs, but a cat may in fact render a small animal a tereifa, Rav teaches us that it is referring specifically to a wolf.

רב עמרם בשם רב חסדא: דריסת חתול ונמייה מטריפה בגדיים וטלאים (קטנים מאוד), ודריסת חולדה — בעופות. מיתיבי מברייתא: חתול, נץ ונמייה אינם מטריפים אלא אם כן ניקבו ממש את החלל — אבל מכוח הדריסה (הארס) לבדה אין להם דרוסה.

§ Rav Amram says that Rav Ḥisda says: If an animal was clawed by a cat or a mongoose, in the case of kids or lambs, which are very small, it is a tereifa. If it was clawed by a weasel in the case of birds, it is a tereifa. The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita: An animal clawed by a cat, hawk, or mongoose is not rendered a tereifa until one of its internal organs is perforated to its recesses. One may infer: But they, i.e., a cat, hawk, and mongoose, do not have the ability to render an animal a tereifa through the clawing itself.

תמיהה על הדיוק: וכי נץ אינו דורס? והרי שנינו במשנה ״ודרוסת הנץ״! תירוץ: אין קושי — המשנה (נץ דורס) בעופות, והברייתא (נץ אינו דורס) בגדיים וטלאים.

The Gemara questions the inference: And can you understand that a hawk does not effectively claw an animal? But didn’t we learn in the mishna: And a small bird clawed by a hawk is rendered a tereifa? The Gemara responds: That is not difficult. Here, where the mishna states that a hawk can effectively claw, it is with regard to birds, while there, where the baraita states that a hawk does not effectively claw, it is with regard to kids and lambs.

מכל מקום, על רב חסדא קשה מן הברייתא (שחתול אינו דורס). תירוץ: רב חסדא סובר כבְרִיבִּי (״הגדול״), ששנה: לא אמרו שאין דרוסה לחתול אלא במקום שאין מצילים את הגדי; אבל במקום שיש מצילים — יש דרוסה, כי החתול כועס ומזריק ארס.

The Gemara returns to its initial objection: In any case, the baraita poses a difficulty for Rav Ḥisda, who says that a cat may render kids and lambs tereifot through clawing. The Gemara responds: Rav Ḥisda states his opinion in accordance with the opinion of that tanna, as it is taught in a baraita: The Distinguished One says: They said that a kid is not effectively clawed by a cat only in a place where there are none present to save it. But in a place where there are bystanders trying to save the kid, it is effectively clawed, since the cat is angered and injects venom into the wound. Rav Ḥisda is referring specifically to the latter case.

קושיא: ובמקום שאין מצילים אין דרוסה? והרי תרנגולת בבית רב כהנא שחתול רדף אחריה, נכנס לחדר ונסגרה הדלת בפניו, והכה בכעסו על הדלת — ונמצאו עליה חמישה טיפי דם (ארס)! משמע שהחתול מזריק ארס אף בלא מצילים.

The Gemara asks: And in a place where there are none to save the kid, is it not effectively clawed? But there was a certain hen that was in the house of Rav Kahana, which a cat pursued, and the cat entered after it into a small room, and the door shut in the cat’s face, and it struck the door with its paws in anger. And afterward, five drops of blood, i.e., venom, were found on the door. Apparently a cat is venomous even if no one is present to save its prey.

תירוץ: הצלת החתול את עצמו (כשנמלט ונלכד) דינה כהצלת אחרים — ולכן כעס והזריק ארס. ולרבנן, החולקים על בְרִיבִּי: לחתול יש ארס, אך אינו ״צורב״ מספיק להטריף.

The Gemara responds: For a cat, saving itself is also considered like saving others. Since the cat felt threatened, it acted as it would if there had been someone present to defend the hen. The Gemara asks: And the Rabbis, who state in the baraita that a cat can never effectively claw a small animal, even when there are bystanders attempting to save its prey, how do they explain this incident? The Gemara responds: According to the Rabbis, a cat does have venom, but its venom does not burn enough to render the animal a tereifa.

לישנא אחרינא: הברייתא (שחתול אינו דורס) היא כבְרִיבִּי — אך בניסוח הפוך: יש דרוסה רק במקום שיש מצילים, ובמקום שאין מצילים אין דרוסה; ורב חסדא סובר כרבנן, שיש דרוסה אף בלא מצילים. ושוב מקשים ממעשה התרנגולת של רב כהנא (חמישה טיפי דם), ומתרצים: הצלת עצמה כהצלת אחרים.

There are those who state the details of this exchange differently: After raising an objection to the statement of Rav Ḥisda from the baraita that states that a cat cannot effectively claw kids and lambs, the Gemara responds: In accordance with whose opinion is this baraita? It is in accordance with the opinion of the Distinguished One, as it is taught in a baraita: The Distinguished One says: They said that a kid is effectively clawed by a cat only in a place where there are bystanders present to save it. But in a place where there are none present to save the kid, it is not effectively clawed. The baraita, then, discusses a case where there are none present to save it. Rav Ḥisda agrees with the Rabbis that a cat can effectively claw an animal even when there are none present to save it. The Gemara asks: But in a place where there are none present to save the kid, is it not effectively clawed? But there was a certain hen that was in the house of Rav Kahana, which a cat pursued, and the cat entered after it into a small room, and the door shut in the cat’s face, and it struck the door with its paws in anger. And afterward, five drops of blood, i.e., venom, were found on the door. The Gemara responds: For a cat, saving itself is also considered like saving others.

רב כהנא שאל את רב שלוש שאלות: יש דרוסה לחתול? השיב: אף לחולדה יש. יש דרוסה לחולדה? השיב: אף לחתול אין. ולשניהם יחד? השיב: לחתול יש, לחולדה אין. שלוש תשובות שלכאורה סותרות.

The Gemara relates that Rav Kahana asked Rav: Does a cat render an animal a tereifa through clawing, or does a cat not render it a tereifa through clawing? Rav said to him: Even a weasel, which is smaller than a cat, does render an animal a tereifa through clawing. Rav Kahana also asked him: Does a weasel render an animal a tereifa through clawing, or does a weasel not render it a tereifa through clawing? Rav said to him: Even a cat does not render an animal a tereifa through clawing. Rav Kahana also asked him: With regard to a cat and a weasel, do they render an animal a tereifa through clawing, or do they not render it a tereifa through clawing? Rav said to him: A cat does render an animal a tereifa through clawing, but a weasel does not render it a tereifa through clawing.

יישוב: שלוש התשובות אמורות בשלושה מקרים שונים. ״אף לחולדה יש״ — בעופות; ״אף לחתול אין״ — בכבשים גדולים; ״לחתול יש, לחולדה אין״ — בגדיים וטלאים קטנים.

The Gemara clarifies: And the apparent contradiction between these responses is not difficult. That which Rav said to him: Even a weasel does render an animal a tereifa through clawing, was stated about a case of clawed birds. That which he said to him: Even a cat does not render an animal a tereifa through clawing, was stated about a case of adult sheep. That which Rav said to him: A cat does render an animal a tereifa through clawing, but a weasel does not render it a tereifa through clawing, was stated about a case of kids and lambs.